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Thailand golfing tour news

Welcome to the Second Edition of the Ascot Golf Newsletter.

It seems that our first newsletter went down very well with the majority of you. Thanks you very much for the feed back and any suggestions or ideas you have would be greatly appreciated.

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1. Heard on the golf courses around the country    

It seems even I was miss-informed about the number of new golf courses that are being built in the Western Cape Region over the next couple of years. The list includes Greg Normans first signature course in South Africa which will be situated next to Ernies Course Oubaai, Jack Nicklaus will be building a ‘Bears Best’ course at Pearl Valley, The Gary Player Design Group will be building a 36-hole resort course between George and Mossel Bay and another course at Plettenberg bay, Simola (a Nicklaus Design which has been sitting idle for 7 years) will open early next year in Knysna, Pinnacle Point (as spectacular as Sparrabosch/Pezula) at Mossel Bay, Kingswood between George Golf Course and Fancourts Links Course, as well as the Knysna River Reserve in Knysna.

That’s not all because further along the Garden Route will be the Tsitsikamma Coastal Forest Course and the St. Francis Links. The Alicedale development north of Port Elizabeth in the heart of the game reserve area will also be getting a championship Gary Player Designed Golf Course.

And last but not least is the further 18 holes being built at Arabella and a Links Course being commissioned in the same area.

The majority of these courses will be Estate Courses, but will all offer something unique for all golfers.

The Montague Golf Course at Fancourt has been closed and is scheduled for re-opening in December 2004. After the Presidents Cup, Hasso Plattner the owner of Fancourt decided that he wanted the Montagu to be back on top of the golf course rankings and he is spending R20 – mil on re-developing the golf course. My guess is that he will do the same to the Outeniqua once the Montague is up and running.

The Gary Player Golf Course has been forced to close until July as a combination of fertilizers on the greens killed them all off overnight. The course managers have decided to lift all the greens and after re-shaping a few to relay them completely, instead of trying to recover them. Maybe they will be a little more user friendly for the average putter as they grow in.

2. The pricing issue regarding the golf clubs and in general    

This is still a very hot topic subject and I will be meeting with the club captains around the table on the 29th of April to discuss contracts with the clubs. The good news to come out of the meeting with the managers is that a couple of the clubs have now offered a restricted number of operators a 10% incentive. This is still far too little in the tourism context and we are pushing for a greater discount which will benefit us all. Ill keep you informed.

3. Barry has just visited Thailand on a Golf Holiday and compares the destination with South Africa    

Thailand and South Africa are both competing for the European/Scandanavian golf/traveler that wishes to take a long flight to an inexpensive but enjoyable sunny destination some time during their winter when they are not able to play or enjoy their golf.

In March 2004 I accompanied a group of South Africans on a golf tour to Pattaya ,Thailand

   CAPE TOWN    PATTAYA   
TEMPERATURE 20-30 CENTIGRADE 10 30-40 CENTIGRADE 7
HUMIDITY LOW 9 HIGH 6
RAIN 5% P0SSIBILITY 8 5% POSSIBILITY 8
WIND CAN BLOW STRONGLY AT TIMES 6 SLIGHT HOT WIND OCCASIONALLY 8
DAY LIGHT HOURS 5AM TO 9PM   16 HOURS 9 6AM TO 7PM  13 HOURS 7
GOLF WEATHER HOT AND PLEASANT EXCEPT WHEN VERY WINDY 8 VERY HOT AND HUMID AND UNCOMFORTABLE 5
AIR POLLUTION NOT A PROBLEM IN CITY OR GOLF COURSE 8 BAD IN CITY AND NOTICABLE ON SOME GOLF COURSES 5
INSECTS OCCASIONAL MOSQUITO IN EVENING 8 MIDGES AND MOSQUITOS ON SOME COURSES AND IN EVENINGS 6
TRAFFIC AND DELAYS DRIVE ON LEFT     ONLY AT PEAK TIMES FOR WORK MOTORISTS 8  DRIVE ON LEFT    BAD IN AND OUT OF CITY AT ALL TIMES 6
ROAD SIGNAGE IN ENGLISH WITH ROAD NUMBERS 8 ENGLISH FOR MAJOR ROADS ONLY AND IN THAI FOR OTHERS 6
TAXIS AND PUBLIC TRANSPORT EXPENSIVE AND NOT VISUAL 6 INEXPENSIVE AND ALWAYS AVAILABLE 10
DRINKING WATER QUITE  SAFE TO DRINK 8 DEFINITELY NOT RECOMMENDED 4
SANITATION AND TOILETS GOOD 8  NOT ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE ESPECIALLY FOR WOMAN 5
SECURITY AND CRIME AS FOR ANY CITY IN WORLD CARE MUST BE TAKEN PARTICULARY AT NIGHT 4  SERIOUS CRIME AND VIOLENCE NOT A PROBLEM 9
LANGUAGE PREDOMINATELY ENGLISH 8 BROKEN ENGLISH AT BEST 5
AIR CONNECTIONS JET LAG APPROXIMATELY 10 INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES AND  ALSO LOCAL CONNECTIONS FROM JOHANNESBURG INTO CAPE TOWN. NO JET LAG AS ONLY+_2 HOURS TIME DIFFERENCE 6  APRROXIMATELY 50 INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES FLYING INTO  BANGKOK . THEN+_ 3 HOUR DRIVE TO PATTAYA .JET LAG IS A PROBLEM WITH  6/8 HOURS TIME DIFFERENCE 7
COST OF FLIGHTS AND AVAILABILITY AND DURATION EXPENSIVE AND NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE NO DEPARTURE TAX CHARGED +_12 HRS FLYING TIME 5 REASONABLE AND ALSO CHEAPER  CHARTERS.  R100/PERSON DEPARTURE TAX PAYABLE. +_12 HOURS FLYING TIME 8
HIGH DEMAND PERIOD JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH 8 NOVEMBER, DECEMBER JANUARY 8
HOTELS AND PRICING VARIOUS CATEGORIES BUT 4 AND 5 STAR HOTEL PRICING IS EXPENSIVE. GUEST HOUSES AND SELF CATERING OFFER BETTER VALUE 6 ABUNDANT AND AT GOOD  RATES FOR TOP HOTELS . VALUE FOR MONEY RATES FOR BUDGET HOTELS. 9
FOOD EXCELLENT QUALITY AND HYGIENE AND VALUE FOR MONEY FOR VARIETY OF CUISINES 8  LOCAL FOOD INCLUDING SEA FOOD AND RESTAURANTS ARE EXTREMELY CHEAP AND GOOD 10
ALCOHOL BEER AND SPIRITS CHEAP EXCELLENT CHOICE AND VARIETY OF REASONABLY PRICED WINES 8 LOCAL BEER PRICES ON PAR BUT WINE QUALITY AND PRICE NOT COMPARABLE AND NOT GOOD 7
SERVICE IN HOTELS AND SHOPS AND RESTAURANTS NORMALLY GOOD 8 LANGUAGE CAN LEAD TO PERCEPTIONS OF BAD SERVICE BUT THE THAIS ARE ALWAYS SMILING AND TRYING THEIR BEST TO PLEASE 8
SIGHTSEEING AND ATTRACTIONS MOUNTAINS, SCENIC DRIVES, WINE FARMS, NATURE RESERVES, PENGUINES, WATERFRONT, ROBBEN ISLAND, BEACHES AND LOCAL ATTRACTIONS 9 BEACH AND  ISLANDS  AND WATER SPORTS, MASSAGE, TEMPLES , SHOPPING FOR VARIOUS BARGAINS SEX FOR THE ADVENTUROUS AND PREDOMINATELY SINGLE MALE 8
TV AND NEWSPAPER LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL VIA SATELITE TV 8 LIMITED EUROPEAN COVERAGE ON TV AND LOCAL ENGLISH PRESS 6
NUMBER OF GOLF COURSES 20 WITHIN 50 KLM FROM CAPE TOWN CENTRE (MAX 45 MINUTES DRIVE) 8 22 WITHIN 70 KLM OF PATTAYA (DRIVE CAN TAKE UP TO 90 MINUTES) 8
STANDARD OF COURSES AT LEAST 6 OF CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD 10 OF GOOD CLUB STANDARD AND USER FRIENDLY REMAINDER QUITE PLAYABLE BUT NOT WELL MANICURED 8 ONLY 2/3 OF CHAMPIONSHIP STANDARD  4/6 WORTH PLAYING WITH GOOD FACILITIES  REMAINDER, CHEAP BUT SOME NOT IN GOOD CONDITION 7
GREEN FEES VALUE FOR MONEY APPROXIMATELY R500 FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP TOP 3/4 AND APPROXIMATELY R350 FOR THE NEXT 5/6 AND THEN BETWEEN R200 AND R3OO FOR THE REMAINDER PRICES FOR ALL DAYS BUT NO PLAY ON SATURDAYS (MEMBERS) 8 DIFFERENT PRICES FOR PLAY OVER WEEKENDS CHAMPIONSHIP FROM R500 BETTER COURSES FROM R300 OTHERS START FROM R90 AND OFFER GOOD VALUE ESPECIALLY FOR THE AVERAGE HOLIDAY GOLFER 10
BUGGIES BUGGIES FROM R120 BUT SOME COURSES HAVE LIMITED SUPPLY AND SHOULD BE PRE BOOKED MOST COURSES CAN BE WALKED SOME DO NOT ALLOW BUGGIES UNLESS WITH MEDICAL CERTIFICATE   8 FROM R100 AVAILABLE AT MOST COURSES  PREFERABLE BECAUSE OF THE HOT AND HUMID CONDITIONS TO TAKE ONE BUT ALL COURSES CAN BE WALKED (HARD SWEATY WORK) 9
CADDIES FROM R1OO PLUS HALFWAY DRINK AND EAT (R10-R15) PLUS TIP +_R20/R50 LOCAL CADDIES (ALL MEN) ARE VERY KNOWLEDGABLE AND CAN BE VERY HELPFUL WITH DISTANCE AND PUTTING AND SWING ADVICE SOME CAN BE A BIT FORWARD AND UNRELIABLE AND UNTRUSTWOTHY THE BEST CAN REALLY ENHANCE YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE COURSE CADDIES ARE NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE   7 FROM R40 AND WITH R40 TIP AND ALSO 2/3 DRINKS AND SNACKS DURING THE ROUND (R30)  SMILING WILLING LADIES WHO IN MOST CASES HAVE ONLY LIMITED BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF GOLF AND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE AND ACT AS BAG CARRIES ONLY  COMPULSORY ON ALL COURSES AND THIS COST IS IN ADDITION TO THE GREEN FEE AND POSSIBLY YOUR BUGGY COST 8
CLUBHOUSES MOST HAVE UPGRADED THEIR FACILITIES AND OFFER MENS AND LADIES CHANGE ROOMS AND BAR AND CATERING AT RESONABLE PRICES 8 GOOD FACILITIES AVAILABLE AT MOST CLUBS  DRINKS MORE EXPENSIVE BUT LOCAL FOOD GOOD VALUE 8
GOLF CULTURE AND COMMENTS AND AVAIABILITY CLUBS AND PROFESIONALS AND MEMBERS SET HIGH STANDARDS FOR DRESS AS WELL AS GOLF ETTIQUETTE, RULES AND BOOKING PROCEEDURES DUE TO HIGH NUMBER OF CLUB MEMBERS WEEKEND GOLF TEE- TIMES AND ALSO AT CERTAIN TIMES DURING THE WEEK IS SOMETIMES NOT AVAILABLE RULES OF THE ROYAL AND ANCIENT STRICTLY APPLIED 8  LITTLE OR NO GOLF TRADITIONS OR KNOWLEDGE ESPECIALLY IN THE CHEAPER LESS INTERNATIONAL TOURIST COURSES  COMMUNICATION CAN BE A PROBLEM AND TEE  TIMES CANCELLED OR MOVED DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCES.   TEE-TIMES OBTAINABLE ON ALL DAYS  LOCAL RULES APPLY IE SAFE DROP ZONES FOR WATER HAZARDS 7
VARIETY OF COURSES PREDOMINATELY OLD ESTABLISHED PARKLAND MEMBER OWNED COURSES; WITH MODERN AND NATURAL FEATURES .NEW COURSES ARE ALL ON HOUSING ESTATES AND THESE ARE SIGNATURE COURSES AND ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE. MOST HAVE FANTASTIC MOUNTAIN VIEWS 8 VERY FEW COURSES OLDER THAN 15 YEARS. COUNTRYSIDE VIEWS  MOST COURSES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED BY FAMOUS NAMES AND REFLECT THEIR PARTICULAR STYLE BUT ARE GENERALLY ALL MORE LIKE THE AMERICAN TYPE WITH MODERN BUNKERING AND LOTS OF WATER 8
VAT AND SERVICE FEES AND TIPPING 14% VAT AND NO SERVICE FEES ADDED ON EXCEPT SOME RESTAURANTS WILL ADD 10%FOR TABLES OF 8 OR MORE TIPPING IS AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION AND IS ACCEPTABLE AT 10% FOR GOOD SERVICE 7 7% VAT AND 10 % SERVICE FEE SOMETIMES INCLUDED IN THE BILL  ADDITIONAL TIP AT OWN DISCRETION AND ALWAYS THANKFULLY RECEIVED 9
TIME TAKEN TO COMPLETE A ROUND SELDOM LESS THAN 4.5 HOURS DUE TO THE CUSTOMARY STOP AFTER 9 HOLES FOR DRINK AND EATS. 5 HOURS PLUS ROUNDS ARE POSSIBLE WHEN  VISITORS PLAY UNTIL THEY SINK THE PUTT ON EVERY HOLE,SOMETIME TAKING 10 SHOTS OR MORE 5 LESS THAN 4.5 HOURS IS POSSIBLE AS THERE IS NO STOP AND DRINKS ARE AVAILABLE EVERY 3/4 HOLES AT KIOSKS. ON POPULAR AND BUSY COURSES THE TEE  MARKERS ARE MOVED FAR FORWARD TO SHORTEN THE HOLES AND TIME TO ALLOW FOR MORE GOLFERS AND INCOME 7
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MY SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS

The grand total Cape Town slightly ahead. This is probably due to my biased opinion as besides being a resident of the city, I am also a partner in Ascot Golf Tours. Neither Cape Town nor Pattaya can be considered a true golf destination as per Myrtle Beach or Costa do Sol, but both are fantastic destinations that offer good value golf.

For the golf purist who enjoys european customs and standards, good food, excellent golf weather and a variety of good golf courses, then Cape Town is the place visit.

Thailand wins on price for the total package including air fares, golf green and caddie fees and cheap and delicious sea food, especially if you are visiting Thailand for other reasons than just golf and good food.

If you have not yet visited either destination you have something to look forward to. Wishing you good golf (preferably on a visit to South Africa with Ascot Tours)

4.Familiarization Trips    

This months Fam trips were re-scheduled due to a number of reasons. We will be doing one Fam trip in September this year and the route will take in Cape Town, Winelands, Arabella, Fancourt, Knysna and two game reserves (Kariega and Shamwari). This is the most popular route selling at the moment and by restricting the trip to this area it will allow you the opportunity to get the most out of the visit and see as much as possible.

Final dates are yet to be arranged but we will be offering just 14 seats on this trip so please register your interest ASAP.

5. Scheduled Tours    

The response to scheduled tours has been very good and in the next couple of weeks we will release three trips for the season ahead. These trips will all offer the same sort of thing but the accommodation and golf will differ thus giving a variance in price options.

These will be seat in coach tours with a seat confirmed with a 20% deposit and I will include all these conditions with the packages.

6. Special Event Packages    

As you might know the Irish Rugby team visits our shores in June and the English Cricket Team is here in the summer for a 5 test series. We have accommodation and can source tickets should you have clients that would want to come out for the events or combine a golfing holiday with these events.

7. Incentive Packages    

This is just to remind you of our special incentive for group travel.

We all know that with group travel there is always one person that does all the work. This person might get his holiday complimentary but he also takes all the abuse when one of the group is late or can’t find his room key etc. If you get a group enquiry of 24 golfers or more which book and pay for a 7 night or more holiday, not only will the group leader go complimentary (depending on hotel policy) but we will give the group leader a 10 night stay at Ascot Gardens and Lodge for two people including car hire complimentary just for putting the group together. The only catch is the group needs to pay in full before the holiday becomes valid and it is valid for one year from Date of travel subject to availability.

8. Tournament Packages    

We have been asked by a few operators to put together a couple of tournaments. We are currently negotiating with the hotels to see what deals we can get and will be looking at putting together two tournaments for the coming season – October and March.

These will be open to individuals as well as couples and both men and women and again all places will be secured with a 20% deposit. All the details will be out by the end of the month.

9. Ascot Tours Website    

Our fantastic new website will be up and running by the end of this month. It is going to be unlike anything you have seen from us before and our in house IT department will be constantly updating and changing it adding hotels specials on a weekly basis. It will also have a news section which will keep you up to date with what is going on, on the golf courses of South Africa so you will be constantly in touch with the market here.

We will issue a press release when the site goes live

That’s the end of the second newsletter for 2004. Please forward us a list of all the e-mail addresses in your office that you would like us to send this to so that we can keep you informed of the developments with golf tourism in South Africa and the developments at Ascot Golf.

Yours in Golf

The Ascot Golf Team.

 
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